have you ever heard a dub say that they are not a cult because they don't live in a commune?
(aside from all the other reasons they are a cult- see other thread about wt mind control) my question is, isn't bethel rather like a commune?
and what about the wt farms?.
I have a few simple rules for cult identification.
Does it restrict the flow of information to members?
Does it treat ex-members badly?
Does it harm or cause people to die by following it's edicts?
Does it have a vested financial interest in members remaining in it?
Does it recruit "new members" (not many people don't just wander in to a cult)
Does the wts fit the bill?
H.K.
it is illegal to wear a beard.
(matthew 24:45-47).
but it is legal to wear a mustache.
Cameo.. the wts have depicted Jesus as white ,Brown, Bearded and clean shaven, long haired, short haired, straight haired , curly.
Just about the only constant is that he was a male human.
This only lasted until after his resurrection when he only LOOKED human....when the wts say he was actually a spirit being. Jesus must have been messing with Thomas when he said;-
"put your hand in my side a spirit does not have flesh and bones does it?"
I agree totally with your above question.
H.K.
i have been lurking in the shadows for a while now i just got my account from the fine administrators of this board.
i have really enjoyed reading the well thought out comments and critiques of the wts doctrine.. i have been around the wts since i was 5 i left for a while during high school got to live a little worldly/normal life then got sucked back in.
my wife has been raised in the truth and even though weve been inactive (for a while now), she still has thoughts about the earthly hope and seeing her grandparents some day.
Welcome to the forum .
have a good screen name you do......hmmm.
Try to fade do not, either do, or do not do.
I notice you're still with your wife too, so divorce is not strong with this one.
Sorry couldn't resist.
H.K.
it is illegal to wear a beard.
(matthew 24:45-47).
but it is legal to wear a mustache.
Well the article in question also says that basically the "white race " are the top dogs and that the Blacks, Indians and Chinese might catch up one day.....so I guess that means that god wants the whites to prosper.
It was present truth from Jehovah at the time remember. Who are we to doubt.
H.K.
it is illegal to wear a beard.
(matthew 24:45-47).
but it is legal to wear a mustache.
@ ninja , LOL.
Remember guys that the wts has actually provided a reasonable answer regarding why we have such disparity between how humans from each continent look......
"white people living in China eventually produce Chinese offspring (without intermarrying)--due to the influence of soil and climate"
The Watchtower 7/15/ 1902.
So I would like to propose that Adam and his Wife in fact lived on all of the continents for a while and had kids there, so that explains why we all look so different. I mean they did live to nearly 1000 yrs old.......Perhaps he took some baby koala bears down to Oz in his boat after he named them too?
I think this could qualify as "new light".
H.K.
http://watchtower.org/e/20080501a/article_01.htm.
of course, they fail to mention adding word like [other], [union] and the name jehovah to the inspired text.. tut, tut, more intellectual dishonest from the "faithful and discreet" slave who never runs ahead of jehovah..
I went up to visit my Jw gran in hospital who I was told was close to death, and my grandfather asked my about my views and why I didn't like the nwt?
Strange eh?
He seemed almost obsessed by it.
He then asked my gran who was struggling to breathe what was the finest translation in the world?
She then croaked out " The new world translation".
It is a vile distortion of the Bible and the above demonstrated the fanatical blind adherence to that piece of anti-Christian Bile.
H.K.
i am not so sure which one should i choose?.
Can I suggest a Nokia 3310? it is feature packed.
was it as bad as everyone says, that if you leave the organization, you'll go back to the world, get into trouble and suffer?.
I lost my Brother who is an elder. He drew me into conversations with him in order to testify against me for "apostasy" and get me difellowshipped.
I lost many people who I can only refer to as former associates, to call them friends is making a mockery of the definition.
I knew it wasn't "the truth" for many years but now that I , my wife and two lovely kids are out it is wonderful to be free from the wts oppressive yolk.
My story is here.
ok, i've bought an old factory near a river.
i've bought some printing presses, some paper, and some cardboard shipping boxes.. can i start a religion and get all of you guys to obey my every word?.
@ pass.
I'm assuming that you will be singing at your new church?
Can I write some of the music for your song book?
I'm thinking I could include some lyrics that speak of bees getting molested. (it's worship music after all).
We could make it wasps to avoid plagarism issues which the wts have never been involved in......
M
john 5 :39 ' 40 "you study the scriptures, because you think that in them you will find eternal life.
and these very scriptures speak about me!
yet you are not willing to come to me in order to have life.
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Wrote Sherlock Holmes , and Holmes once said
" once you have eliminated every other possibillity the only thing that is remaining MUST be the truth no matter how improbable or unbelievable."
Just what are we left with Reniaa?
We KNOW The Bible says there is one God.
We KNOW the Bible doesn't contradict itself.
We KNOW it calls Both Jesus and the Holy Spirirt divine.
We KNOW that Jesus Is worshipped many times in scripture.
What must we conclude whether we or the organisation we are part of says something different?
Simply put that WE must be in the wrong however much we want to believe otherwise.
H.K.
